Thanks for all the tips lads, well we got there at about 5.15 and fished just after the gate ( I was abit edgey going round that thing ) but the 2 lads i was with were confident we stood a better chance of catching further along. Within 10 mins 2 coalies were hooked ( None by me ), then as the water was dropping off a little we then moved to the end. One small codling caught on the end ( Not by Me ) That was caught at about 6.30, at 9.00 we decided to toddle of home. Conditions looked purfect but as we all know looks ca be deceiving. Well Captain Blankey Signing out .