hugh fearnley whittingstall

[guest14]

Any one watch Hugh and the fish fight petition programme last night,i watched a bit then crashed out........i think this programme will open a lot of peoples eyes as to what goes on with the trawlers and discards...on again at 9 tonight i think

[jon s]

eddie t said it was brill really opened up acan ov worm s well worth a watch

[guest14]

think there is a link on here john,you can put your name down on an online petition,cant say it will do any good but a worthwhile cause

[allancodfish]

yes it was a good show for the the boat owners showed all those poor cod going back dead having worked on the decks of the same type of fishing boats for over 10 years when you are on the fish
90 %your prime fish ie cod flats haddock just like that boat last night are strong alive when lifted on deck the fish that suffer the most are the whitings small haddock undersized codlings if you noticed how fast the disgaurd was going over the side did you also notice the men gutting the fish and how slow the belt was moveing all them fish in the hopper [the thing were the cod end goes]still strong alive but every one of those fish was dead i smell a rat mate and every one who has fished commercial will no this

[jon s]

i know uve got more experience than most ,with regards this subject, ive even witnessed yr catch on the trawler thermoplele . wot do u think they should ? long line only like iceland?

[guest14]

yes it was a good show for the the boat owners showed all those poor cod going back dead having worked on the decks of the same type of fishing boats for over 10 years when you are on the fish
90 %your prime fish ie cod flats haddock just like that boat last night are strong alive when lifted on deck the fish that suffer the most are the whitings small haddock undersized codlings if you noticed how fast the disgaurd was going over the side did you also notice the men gutting the fish and how slow the belt was moveing all them fish in the hopper [the thing were the cod end goes]still strong alive but every one of those fish was dead i smell a rat mate and every one who has fished commercial will no this

i know you fished trawlers a lot alan,do you think this is a set up,does this discard happen as the program showsI

[allancodfish]

that will not work jon you just have not got the fish stocks were the long lines will work icelands /norways cods stocks  are high mate  put out down and you are going to get cod the quoters have got to stop in place mate and there should be a total ban between the months of december
to the end of february so all mature cod at least get to spawn once and maybe give the lads a little bit extra in the summer months but as far as disgaurds go the deckhands are not going to make there day any harder than it is by getting the fish in the water when the fish are still alive
even though it can be done so the public see all this fish being wasted and think its a disgrace
yes it is a damm disgrace but a lot of it can be prevented and as far as gill nets go which i have also spent a lot of time doing stop the trammels which is a bigger meshed net on a smaller meshed net when a fish hits it it takes the smaller meshed net into the bigger meshed net and makes a pocket the fish might only be 3 pound and would go through the smaller meshed net no problem  mesh size 5.5inch if it was not for the trammel walls [the bigger meshed net i started
fishing commercial in 1979 we used nylon nets 4.5 inch mesh sizewe used to get loads of fish in the 2-5 pound size but cleaning them was hard after a swell crabs weed stones the comes mono nets and trammels you could fish 5 times more net  and the size of the fish increased so now you were getting small fish as well as all the spawning fish how can that be kept up  some boats are fishing 8000 yards of trammel net

[allancodfish]

yes it was a good show for the the boat owners showed all those poor cod going back dead having worked on the decks of the same type of fishing boats for over 10 years when you are on the fish
90 %your prime fish ie cod flats haddock just like that boat last night are strong alive when lifted on deck the fish that suffer the most are the whitings small haddock undersized codlings if you noticed how fast the disgaurd was going over the side did you also notice the men gutting the fish and how slow the belt was moveing all them fish in the hopper [the thing were the cod end goes]still strong alive but every one of those fish was dead i smell a rat mate and every one who has fished commercial will no this

i know you fished trawlers a lot alan,do you think this is a set up,does this discard happen as the program showsI

think there is a link on here john,you can put your name down on an online petition,cant say it will do any good but a worthwhile cause

i know uve got more experience than most ,with regards this subject, ive even witnessed yr catch on the trawler thermoplele . wot do u think they should ? long line only like iceland?

yes discard happens mate its got to fish do die but its got to be up to the skipper to say to the deckhands get the fish back in the water as fast as possible but that will not happen the not getting paid for it even its in there interest to do so and yes i think it was a set up even when you are fishing for prawns and you are towing the net for 5- 6 hours and all them prawns going round and round your cod end like a grinder in there most of your stronger fish are sill alive ie cod and flats did any see that program the trawlermen that irish boat the one that had been done for going over his quoter  and he was tossing all the cod over the side saying that there is nothing a matter with the cod stocks all them cod were alive i becouse he made a point to show the cameras before he started to gut the fish i

[guest14]

that will not work jon you just have not got the fish stocks were the long lines will work icelands /norways cods stocks  are high mate  put out down and you are going to get cod the quoters have got to stop in place mate and there should be a total ban between the months of december
to the end of february so all mature cod at least get to spawn once and maybe give the lads a little bit extra in the summer months but as far as disgaurds go the deckhands are not going to make there day any harder than it is by getting the fish in the water when the fish are still alive
even though it can be done so the public see all this fish being wasted and think its a disgrace
yes it is a damm disgrace but a lot of it can be prevented and as far as gill nets go which i have also spent a lot of time doing stop the trammels which is a bigger meshed net on a smaller meshed net when a fish hits it it takes the smaller meshed net into the bigger meshed net and makes a pocket the fish might only be 3 pound and would go through the smaller meshed net no problem  mesh size 5.5inch if it was not for the trammel walls [the bigger meshed net i started
fishing commercial in 1979 we used nylon nets 4.5 inch mesh sizewe used to get loads of fish in the 2-5 pound size but cleaning them was hard after a swell crabs weed stones the comes mono nets and trammels you could fish 5 times more net  and the size of the fish increased so now you were getting small fish as well as all the spawning fish how can that be kept up  some boats are fishing 8000 yards of trammel net

Bloody hell,nee the wonder the cod stocks are ferked,surely it will get to the point where the trawlers cant catch enough fishto make it worthwhile

[eddie t]

I the fish will not last long  it realy p***ed me off.

Example

Why dont they just say your quoter for the month is 20 tone any fish once
it land ya cant go out till next month the boats will have less time at see but
will of made the money for the month saves throwing all good eating ish away.

Only certain part of the sea should be trawled as well.

[allancodfish]

the thing that will happen is the boats will just keep the money fish and the rest will be chucked back mate 20 ton of prime fish ie cod nothing else landed back to square one cods sill taking a hit

[eddie t]

Aye but once its caught they cant go back out better than chucking it back dead.

Its got to be better than what they are doing now Allan.

[allancodfish]

i but ya still going to have all the discard off the other fish becouse the only fish the boats will keep are the cod flats and monk

[jon s]

least me and our boy doing our bit 4 cod stocks i only managed about  80 b4 december  ,how many did u total b4 they disapeared ? many more .  me thinks hugh fearnly wud hav afit  :cm1: :cm1: :cm1:  least it was all eaten            !!!!!!!!

[allancodfish]

i ya right there mate i had about 150 cod  have not been since before xmas over due for a trip out mate