it may sound daft but when l return fish and it dont swim off it realy bothers me it pi--es me off a bit but most fish mange to swim off not like the trawlers who dump 100's or may be 1000's of tones of undersize fish thats heart breaking l like to think we as anglers dont put that much of a dent in the fish population as for casting im not the best of casters now and agian might get a good one in (overhead caster) ive fished for 44years and never had a casting lesson and manage to enjoy the sport of seafishing l would love to be able to through a lead some distance in some of the places ive fished without getting a birds nest or snap off l stick with what l know and had quite a few fish over the years only ever had one doubler 10lb 2oz loads just under 10lb never forget that night biggest buzz ever :surf: :fish1: