Another good rig is the up and over,not sure if that is the right name,thats what we used to call it,your bait trace swivel is just above your lead,the trace goes up and loops over a metal clip then back down your main rig body and your hook into the bait clip,good way of getting a long trace which will fish right on the bottom,out at distance,have not got any pics,but that and the pulley rig,two best rigs for the tyne i think :up22: